tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1802896743878321184.post2700914144916056935..comments2023-08-19T01:00:21.479-07:00Comments on Love. Learning. Liberty.: To bmttshadowspringhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15172112981244682382noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1802896743878321184.post-63218311617201612942022-10-31T06:45:47.284-07:002022-10-31T06:45:47.284-07:00This was a loveely blog postThis was a loveely blog postBackyard Design North Charlestonhttps://www.find-gardening.com/us/gardening-south-carolina/backyard-design-north-charleston.shtmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1802896743878321184.post-19878872882213487912010-11-08T04:38:14.722-08:002010-11-08T04:38:14.722-08:00This exchange was really confusing. I thought bmt...This exchange was really confusing. I thought bmtt identified as an atheist, so I answered the post with that in mind.<br /><br />Imagine my surprise when he/she began defending the fundamentalist doctrine of inerrancy! I assumed then that he/she was reacting so strongly because I was questioning a cherished doctrine of theirs, and that the former talk about being an atheist was mere baiting of some kind? <br /><br />It did not make sense. Why would an atheist be supporting a fundamentalist doctrine called inerrancy? <br /><br />Bored today, I followed his/her link to their blog where they again self-identify as atheist, and former home school parent to boot.<br /><br />I think this makes my whole point about fundamentalism and the new YECS dogma turning people away from the faith.<br /><br />I do think it's unfortunate that bmtt (and he/she is not the first!) has held on to the <b>black and white thinking</b> of fundamentalism, an <b>us vs. them</b> mentality in which people who disagree with their beliefs are villified and denigrated and not worth honest consideration or good will. Seems that same high-minded attitude that "I am one of the enlightened few" is a part of the old religion bmtt wanted to hold on to, for some reason. Go figure. <br /><br />Fundamentalism sucks.shadowspringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15172112981244682382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1802896743878321184.post-65140416003870517022010-11-01T06:50:29.857-07:002010-11-01T06:50:29.857-07:00Wow. That's a lot of name calling to include ...Wow. That's a lot of name calling to include in one sentence. Seems the good will only flows in one direction on this exchange! <br /><br />I notice you didn't answer my sincere question about how you define "inspiration". <br /><br />May God be merciful to you, person who claims the name of Christ. I think it is pretty plain that your comments are not coming from a James 3:17-18 place:<br /><br /> <i> But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere. Peacemakers who sow in peace reap a harvest of righteousness. </i><br /><br />Amazingly, I wrote today's post BEFORE I read your comment here. n_n Now that's what I call inspiration! =Dshadowspringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15172112981244682382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1802896743878321184.post-66783488344130501502010-10-31T21:52:57.460-07:002010-10-31T21:52:57.460-07:00[rolling eyes]
Let's see. Martyr complex, in...[rolling eyes]<br /><br />Let's see. Martyr complex, intellectual cowardice, pretentious airs, simple-headedness? Check, check, check and check. Yep, you're a "true" christian. <br /><br />By the way, I could have had you for lunch; that I didn't is "my gift of love to you." <br />;)bmtthttp://boremetotears.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1802896743878321184.post-1152597746108362082010-10-31T17:19:36.475-07:002010-10-31T17:19:36.475-07:00So you think it was line for line exactly transcri...So you think it was line for line exactly transcribed by what? Did the author "channel" the Holy Spirit like in automatic writing?<br /><br />God doesn't need to put a disclaimer on anything, because he created man with the ability to reason and learn. He fully expects us to use our ability to reason, as in "come, let us reason together...."<br /><br />Peace and good will to you, little (or older) brother! SSshadowspringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15172112981244682382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1802896743878321184.post-75822003445981687552010-10-31T15:44:12.935-07:002010-10-31T15:44:12.935-07:00"I totally believe Genesis is the inspired Wo...<em>"I totally believe Genesis is the inspired Word of God. But it was also written by a human, a human who at the earliest lived in the Bronze Age."</em><br /><br />But, why wouldn't God "inspire" the human to get it right? Especially with the salvation of every human being at stake? Are you saying that the book upon which we're supposed to base our entire lives is part errant and part inerrant, but there's no way to really know for sure which is which? Dang. You'd think God would have been considerate enough to at least put a little disclaimer on the top of each chapter: "The following was written by a fallible human living during the Bronze Age, so don't take it literally" <i>or</i> "This part is true so make sure you follow it to the letter so I won't have to send you to you-know-where for eternity." At the very least, that's what <i>I'd</i> do... if someone "died and left (me) God." ;)bmtthttp://boremetotears.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1802896743878321184.post-59625162671878871512010-10-30T11:45:21.393-07:002010-10-30T11:45:21.393-07:00I had be so indoctrinated that anyone who didn'...<i>I had be so indoctrinated that anyone who didn't take the Bible as God's literal word, dictated (or "channeled" as it would be called outside the church) directly by God to the writers, and protected by Him through all the copying, canonization committee meetings, and translations... well, they just weren't True Christians.</i><br /><br />I get this a lot. Sheesh. :( <br /><br />Glad you're not letting your experience of reality and definition of faith be governed by fundamentalist tripe anymore.<br /><br />I have noticed that many fundamentalists-turned-atheists can't let that go. They continue to firmly believe that in order to have a *real* Christian faith you must hold to an inerrant, literal (fundamentalist) reading of Scripture.<br /><br />To both fundamentalists and ex-fundie atheists, I want to teasingly retort: "Who died and left you God?" ;-Dshadowspringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15172112981244682382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1802896743878321184.post-8256821780548817052010-10-30T11:26:34.187-07:002010-10-30T11:26:34.187-07:00(((Sandra)))
Kinda turns the whole "by this ...(((Sandra)))<br /><br />Kinda turns the whole "by this shall all men know that you are my disciples, if you have love one for another" completely on its head, doesn't it?<br /><br />But since God is the only one in a position to judge our relationship with Him, and since He himself took responsibility for anything that might come between any person and the Holy God, making the way for us ALL to be welcomed in His kingdom, well, that really is GOOD NEWS!<br /><br />Yay, Sandra! It's really true! We are accepted in the beloved! Jesus doesn't turn away anyone who comes to Him. *contented sigh*<br /><br />Going off to rest in His love as I live my life, SSshadowspringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15172112981244682382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1802896743878321184.post-85847649243618411742010-10-30T10:36:52.128-07:002010-10-30T10:36:52.128-07:00wow. that didn't seem nearly so long-winded w...wow. that didn't seem nearly so long-winded when I was writing it! sorry!Sandra Keehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16979912092987681396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1802896743878321184.post-45895687726531104372010-10-30T10:35:26.716-07:002010-10-30T10:35:26.716-07:00(administrative request: it would be helpful if yo...(administrative request: it would be helpful if you linked back to the original post in the first line or two and if you linked from your comment to this post)<br /><br />I never thought YEC was a fringe blip--ridiculous, yes; fringe, no--since I heard about the Creation Museum. Even lousy museums cost a gold mine to fund and this one is no exception. Someone very rich or more likely a whole lot of not-so-rich people must be around to underwrite it. <br /><br />I grew up believing in a literal Creation (if not exactly six days some six thousand years ago) but I also belonged to a well-educated family and associated with well-educated families, we didn't much try to reconcile science and faith. We more or less chalked it up to "no one was there--neither the Christians nor the scientists--so it is a matter of faith, no matter what you believe".<br /><br />Even so, when I started working out the stuff in the Bible that just didn't add up--internal contradictions, logical fallacies--even without thinking about the evolution/creation debate, it made me spurn my Christianity. I had be so indoctrinated that anyone who didn't take the Bible as God's literal word, dictated (or "channeled" as it would be called outside the church) directly by God to the writers, and protected by Him through all the copying, canonization committee meetings, and translations... well, they just weren't True Christians. When I quit literalism, I quit Christianity. It has taken me twenty years to find my way back to a Christianity that includes my evangelically heretical beliefs.<br /><br />And that is the worst kind of Pharisaical religiousness--that the rules and dogma became more important that loving one another and leaving the doctrinal statements up to God. If people had shown love and caring to the "heretics", admitting that no one can ever know (in our modern sense of the word) the literal history of the world or the truth (again in our modern sense) of our creeds, then I would have remained in fellowship with Christians all along. But when our churches took it upon themselves to judge the state of my soul's relationship to the Divine based solely on my outward adherence to doctrines or policies, instead of recognizing that God is the only one in a position to judge that relationship, there was no longer a place for me at "God's Table".<br /><br />And that is just plain wrong no matter what interpretation of the Bible you prefer.Sandra Keehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16979912092987681396noreply@blogger.com