tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1802896743878321184.post3928461034401817942..comments2023-08-19T01:00:21.479-07:00Comments on Love. Learning. Liberty.: Blot on our Home School Reputationshadowspringhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15172112981244682382noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1802896743878321184.post-83554747979761304212010-08-15T18:17:14.162-07:002010-08-15T18:17:14.162-07:00Lolz Your rant made my day! That is hilarious.
...Lolz Your rant made my day! That is hilarious. <br /> <br />I hardly came up with the concept of government regulations though I whole-heartedly support living in compliance with them. See my above post for the importance of being a law-abiding citizen as far as guaranteeing the rights of all our citizens, including that of home schooled children. Each state has laws guaranteeing exposure of each child to an education through what are called compulsory attendance laws. This is to protect children from being denied an education. <br /><br />It may also surprise you that I did not propose the individual home school laws in any of the fifty states, pass them or sign them in to law, so technically I can not take credit for the laws either. Though to all who worked hard to get home schooling acknowledged in each state, a hearty well done!<br /><br />I sincerely hope that you are not in charge of educating children in the areas of civics/government/history or debate! =Dshadowspringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15172112981244682382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1802896743878321184.post-59886986526098996382010-08-14T20:55:24.469-07:002010-08-14T20:55:24.469-07:00Napoleon Bonaparte Shadowspring! What a disgustin...Napoleon Bonaparte Shadowspring! What a disgustingly shameful thing to suggest! And what a "shadowspring-centric" view of life to think that your approach to government and American citizenship is the ONLY right one and expects that different views should be reported to the Authorities. We can be sure Obama & Co. will court you to be a snitch!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1802896743878321184.post-89481917311397245942010-08-02T04:38:51.456-07:002010-08-02T04:38:51.456-07:00Each of us is responsible to abide by the law.
I...Each of us is responsible to abide by the law. <br /><br />In any from of law breaking where another person is put at risk (and these children are clearly being put at risk of educational neglect- a handicap that will cast a shadow over their entire professional lives) all citizens have an obligation to report willful law-breaking. <br /><br />Roman 13:3-5 (NIV) <b>3For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you. 4For he is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience.</b>shadowspringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15172112981244682382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1802896743878321184.post-87167591711174818782010-08-02T04:34:50.669-07:002010-08-02T04:34:50.669-07:00No, I don't at all believe that Matthew 18 app...No, I don't at all believe that Matthew 18 applies to situation where a person is knowingly and willfully breaking the law. <br /><br />Matthew 18 applies when a brother sins against YOU. It has no bearing at all in this scenario.shadowspringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15172112981244682382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1802896743878321184.post-48120463065510099232010-08-01T22:28:38.038-07:002010-08-01T22:28:38.038-07:00Hi, shadowspring, I'm L's brother. I just ...Hi, shadowspring, I'm L's brother. I just recently started reading your blog.<br /><br />I agree in general that homeschoolers who operate illegally are making a huge mistake. And I believe there is a place for reporting them to the authorities. But wouldn't it be appropriate first to talk to these families directly? I don't necessarily think Matthew 18 applies to every situation, but I think this might be a good situation in which to apply it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1802896743878321184.post-71564378539964617332010-07-30T07:04:25.649-07:002010-07-30T07:04:25.649-07:00LOL Sandra!
I am so glad you are coming to this...LOL Sandra! <br /><br />I am so glad you are coming to this place where you realize that the government is made up of people, working together to make life work for the three hundred million people who live together in this country.<br /><br />That's a lot of people to get to cooperate long enough to accomplish any good! No wonder our efforts are sometimes insufficient, and other times too heavy handed. And yet with our nation's legacy of good will and personal responsibility (to vote, run for office, and obey the law to name a few ways that works towards good government) we have accomplished quite a lot of good over the past two hundred and thirty four years! No that it is all good, but good has been done here. =)<br /><br />I never understood the sermons demonizing the government. We,the people, make up that government. If strong government is so bad, move to a place with a weak government and I think you'll be running back here in no time with a new appreciation for Big Government!<br /><br />Likewise, I have always seen public education as a good thing, though the implementation of it may leave much to be desired on a class by class, school by school basis. Access to a free education is a good thing, a great thing!<br /><br />I guess that's why compliance with home school laws has never felt onerous to me. I am proud to live in a country where the government cares that each child have access to education. I have no problem following the law. Laws exist for the common good. <br /><br />It's possible that someday some law will be passed that I cannot in good conscience comply with. It hasn't happened yet, though there are plenty of laws I find maddeningly stupid in my current state (the DMV is the portal to hell!), none of them call for civil disobedience on my part. I reserve the right to rant about how stupid they are to those unfortunate enough to be in my life at times, but I WILL suck it up and do the right thing.<br /><br />My guess, Sandra, is that your piece of notarized paper will get summarily filed, and unless you run for public office, no one will ever see it again. For all that clerk knows, you just left a private school and started home schooling. Or you just moved into the area. <br /><br />But there will be a paper trial that your children were home schooled in compliance with state law, and that could come to be very important when they apply for college and/or apply for a job one day. <br /><br />In my current state, you get a little card from the state upon their receipt of your home school registration. When we went to apply for college, it was the first thing the admissions officer asked for. After verifying that, she was happy to look at our portfolio and transcript.<br /><br />Home school laws were passed to benefit home school families, each state balancing parental rights with a state's obligation to provide access to an education for all children. The Supreme Court told each state to do this with the <i>least restrictive means possible</i>. It was a huge victory for home school families.<br /><br />So besides the selfish reason of having my home education program made more palatable to future colleges/employers, I would still comply with state law to honor the families who fought for legal recognition of my right to home school. =) Regardless of their motives (nod to MofM), it worked out well for my family.shadowspringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15172112981244682382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1802896743878321184.post-78863592733491212412010-07-29T10:14:44.061-07:002010-07-29T10:14:44.061-07:00Ironically enough, we are still illegal homeschool...Ironically enough, we are still illegal homeschoolers (although the state is aware of us since my kids are enrolled in an enrichment center through the public school district). When we began homeschooling years ago, I was afraid of The Man, government interference, and wanted nothing more than to "go off the grid" and live "under the radar". But for entirely neo-hippy reasons that had nothing to do with religious convictions. The energy and attitudes were all the same--I just didn't quote the bible or theology to back up my fears.<br /><br />I've gotten over myself slowly as I realized how absurd it is to think that anyone can actually live without the infrastructure of a government and that I in particular have no interest in being so isolated that I can't take advantage of cultural events and libraries--and the student rates and educator discounts available!<br /><br />So I actually legally registered as a homeschooler during our years in NM but never got around to it when we moved here. You'd think we'd have to prove our legal registration to enroll at the enrichment center but we didn't. It just comes down to I've been too lazy to file. <br /><br />The discount program at my favorite used bookstore recently computerized and requires proof of educator status. So I went so far as to fill out the affidavit and have it notarized as proof for the discount but I still never sent it in to the state... my excuse is that I don't want to rock the boat after all these years. More likely it is a gasping dying gesture of neo hippy rebelliousness. Pridefulness, really. <br /><br />Hmmm, guess I should examine this issue a little further...Sandra Keehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16979912092987681396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1802896743878321184.post-77264489554734907592010-07-29T08:15:51.412-07:002010-07-29T08:15:51.412-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1802896743878321184.post-17826845086286892512010-07-29T06:23:30.221-07:002010-07-29T06:23:30.221-07:00Thank you for your voice. {{Hugs}} You are such a ...Thank you for your voice. {{Hugs}} You are such a vital member of the body of Christ! Blessings to you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com